Lol that would be funny. Seems like that’s a huge amount of parking for one tower is all I’m saying. Especially in that footprint. To me it looks like they are future proofing the site for it’s parking needs.
That little open square in the middle makes me think there is some sort of apartment setup wrapping parking and the open square is either the open part of the top parking level or the opening to the interior patio/pool area for apartments.
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Building permits mean they usually start soon after right? And this building is all office correct?
I will say, there were concerns raised about a lack of anything wrapping the parking structure.
“You will see parking structure when driving down Capital. It will be screened, you won’t see cars.”
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I believe the 9-story building is the steel-built office building that will be on the Harrington/east side of that lot. There’s also a concrete parking deck to the south of the lot and a stick-built apartment that will be on the West St. side of the lot.
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By the way, the rezoning proposal was approved by the planning committee today.
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For phase 3? That’s great! Now on to City Council!
Thanks for the info, @Tenkai!
Is it wrapped on three sides with occupied space (such as apartments), with only the Capital Blvd (east) side having some sort of visual screening instead? I think I could probably live with that.
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based on what all he’s built in NH, It’s a parking deck surrounded by apartments / condos. Texas donut.
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To provide a visual to my prior comment, here’s the latest rendering. The 9-story steel-built commercial building is the taller of the new buildings depicted (The West is the taller building in the background of the Kane phase 2 lot) and faces Harrington/Johnson. The apartments will be on the Harrington side of the lot and stick-built. The parking garage will be adjacent to the West parking deck on the south side of the lot, probably wrapped somewhat by the apartments.
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*Notes from 4/23 Planning Commission Meeting - *
General rezoning:
New condition - no jails or prisons, storage units, auto related services (gas stations, repair shops, ect).
Planning commission members commented multiple times about this project needing to be “world class” and that granting a rezoning for this project reflects their faith in Kane providing that level of project. The city wants something back in return that will make a statement for Raleigh.
Kane team agreed, indicating that this would be a “signature project” that would set tone for future opportunities for them.
Amenity areas are planned. Kane team states that they are hoping to go “above and beyond” but no specifics. In general, the lack of specifics at this stage seemed to be a frustration for the Planning Committee, but it’s also understood.
Bob Geary in particular is bothered by the exposed parking decks, thinks that a world-class building should wrap the decks more. Seeks more details about plazas and amenities. Concerned that this sets precedent for other proposals in the area. He was the sole “No” vote to the rezoning, but for more reasons that I’ll touch on later.
This project ultimately is in the public interest even considering concerns. This is consistent with comprehensive plan.
Side note: county is considering putting up an RFP for the property south of this. Nothing concrete yet though.
… More to come as I clean up notes.
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Floors 2 thru 6 or 7 of office towers 1 and 2 at NHE are 100% parking with no wrap. That is what I don’t want here. It doesn’t bother me if the Capital Blvd facade is wrapped or not, but I hope active uses will be facing the street all the way up along Johnson, Harrington, and Peace.
What I expect is something like Dillon with parking for the entire complex under an office tower on ththe north half of the block, and a stick built apartment complex “texas donut” style on the southern half.
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Tenaki, a huge thank you to you for attending, taking notes, and sharing!
I am anxious to learn a bit more about the proposal. I like the idea of more height for DTR and a landmark at the entry to downtown, and I recognize the need for parking, but yikes that is a huge footprint. In general I’m not a fan of superblock buildings. I like skinnier buildings for better pedestrian experience. If the parking is wrapped on three sides that will help.
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Hearing the property next to Phase 3 will be RFP is interesting. Potential Phase 4 there, and if that goes to DX40 there will be quite a block here.
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It all sounds reasonable to me. Glad the Planning Commission seems to have some good insight. Now to City Council…
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This is exiting! I could see that area becoming Raleigh’s “Gulch” with great retail and restaurants.
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Once the building permits are approved , Mr. Kane will start this phase in a few weeks !
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Parking & Traffic:
Kane team included some material details about parking screening, basically mirroring the materials used for the Dillon. Yes, you will see the parking structure when driving down Capital as it’s estimated to be somewhere around 7-8 decks. They reiterated that it will be screened and you won’t see cars, but you will know it’s a parking deck.
There will be full cutoff of lighting in the parking garage.
For ingress and egress of parking deck: it looks like halfway or further down Johnson St, somewhere on Harrington St. for main traffic. There will be a service entrance on Peace St.
The lights on Harrington / Peace and West / Peace will be moving over from timer-based to sensor-based in order to allow more flow of vehicles during peak times and keep traffic from backing up.
Looking at an eventual additional road off of Capital to the south of Harrington that could come with the RFP of the property there.
The gist of comments from the Planning Commission is that if you’re going to build this big, downtown is where you do it. Concerns about parking, traffic and all should be handled by the respective UDOs that have been put in place.
Affordable Housing:
First question out of the gate: why isn’t there an offer for affordable housing in this proposal?
Kane team doesn’t feel confident in making changes to the proposal now based on the size/cost of the project.
The city hasn’t adopted formal policies concerning affordable housing as of yet. There is a proposal in the works but the intent of the framework would be to guide applicants who want to provide affordable housing, not to force developers to include it. The inclusion of affordable housing in a proposal needs to be considered at the point of purchasing the land for development, not afterward.
Bob Geary still really wanted affordable housing somewhere in this development and lamented the fact that we’ve seen three phases of this development so far with no plans for it included.
Op-ed: Maybe he’ll get his wish in Phase 4? I’m willing to bet Kane is eyeballing that potential RFP.
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Why limit to nine stories on one side of the street and then shoot up to 40 in the next phase? Would love to see more variation in heights.
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Crowder better rest up with all the laughing she’s gonna have to do.
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