Smoky Hollow Phases 1, 2, and 3

So did they have to vote to close the public hearing? If so what was the vote?

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So what does this mean?

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No, they don’t vote on closing the public hearing. When both sides have nothing more to say and there is no more council discussion, the mayor closes it.

By the way, in addition to Bonner reintroducing the project with the latest conditions, about 10 stood in support. There was no one present in opposition.

To the best of my knowledge, the developer has to formerly submit the conditions to the council. They have to be in at least 10 days before the next meeting if they want to vote on the rezoning with said conditions.

The comments today suggested that Kane’s people worked with staff to hammer out the final details. I take it to mean that we are on the “final draft” here, this is the one to either go with or not. No room for new “issues.”

I expect the next council meeting to quickly vote on it, yes or no.

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And with that, the Phase II commercial steel building is FLYING!

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Good heavens, no kidding! That is a day’s work?

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Was there a date given for the next council meeting? Sorry if I am slow on this or am not reading correctly…

Thank you by the way, for being present and representing all!!!

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Having that quarry headache facing the council probably makes this rezoning request look easy. It may work out to our advantage.

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I believe it’s Sept 3rd.

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With the addition of an affordable housing component to the project, Bonner pointed out financing may be an issue. They could withdraw the rezoning & go with original zoned height. Note to the 4 slow growthers, as you build density, people seek other forms of transportation. Also, Kane is willing to give an easement for cycle track.

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I wonder if Kane is communicating in terms of lost revenue for the city should they prevent the rezoning to 40 floors. It would seem to me that the city could face a lose-lose if they pushed a hard line and didn’t find a place in the middle. Kane could develop per the UDO and do absolutely nothing for affordable housing while creating less taxable RE for the city.

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After going to the Central CAC meeting night before last then hearing Kane now has a good chance (we think) to get SH approved, we could see two cranes in the air in 2021 building two of Downtown’s largest buildings! RUSBUS would probably start before Kane and I’m just crossing fingers the economy doesn’t derail either effort. I think Kane is a couple years away from a Phase III start.

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Russ Stephenson is laser focused on forcing Kane to include affordable housing in his building, everything else be damned. He cannot see the forest for the trees. Russ stated he and others had been talking to Bonner Gaylord (Kane’s representative), and speaking directly to Bonner, Russ said, “we are very close” [to reaching an agreement]. Words in brackets are mine. I’m very concerned that this will set a precedent that other developers will be expected to follow. Moreover, it’s not an effective way to increase the inventory of affordable housing in a manner that produces predictable, reliable, and sustainable results. As @John and @Buck have pointed out, if the rezoning passes and Kane cannot get financing, nobody wins. Russ may win the battle, but he risks losing the war.

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Couldn’t agree more. What’s the long term plan here council?!? Is this just a convenient way to be able to side step actually coming up with and funding a real plan? I think so…

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From Stef Mendell’s newsletter a few minutes ago:

Council will formally receive new conditions as part of John Kane’s rezoning request for a proposed 40-story building in Smoky Hollow. These will include a traffic impact analysis and the dedication of a portion of the project’s total units as affordable in accordance with City guidelines. We expect to vote on the revised proposal at our September 3rd meeting.

Am I missing something? Since when was it discussed that Kane would incorporate affordable housing into the building? That wasn’t on the table at any point from what I recall. ??

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…and what the hell is this part about or stated? :thinking::face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I was wondering that as well. She and David Cox are so bad at leading poor innocent voters into thinking something that is so far out of reality!

I got the same thing from Stef and didn’t “get that” from Leo’s notes.

As much as I’d like to see 40 stories at this site, I’d also love for Kane to give the council the middle finger and build to the UDO without anything for affordable housing.
Pushing the city’s affordable housing problems into developers’ laps is neither a predictable nor sustainable solution.

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Bonner stated that they had removed the $1M offer & would add an affordable housing component, in his presentation to the Council yesterday. One of their new concessions, including the cycling easement. He also stated that the affordable housing could hinder financing.

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I agree 1000 percent.

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