State Government

Ah, Paul Coble - the shortisighted idiot that refused to even consider any ground floor activation across the street from one of the busiest tourist destinations in the entire city because he “didn’t want to get involved in the leasing business” as if that isn’t easily managed by a property management group and not the government directly… Yeah I’m sure he’ll be glad to give you all the details :joy: GOOD LUCK!

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I had a similar experience. A big round robin of email redirection.

Repubs are all about public input, transparency, email servers…unless its theirs

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Here was Mr. Coble’s reply from email: “I am sorry but we have not released any images at this time.” I then asked if there are any plans to do so. We’ll see see if I get another response. :thinking:

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Yes, thank you Mr. Coble for confirming what was obvious to all.
I am hard pressed to see the benefit of the secrecy. Less public squawking?

This is definitely strange but perhaps par for the course.

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The whole process is very much out of the ordinary. Coble is handling it only because the legislature doesn’t want the Governor’s office to be involved. Can you think of a single government building that made it this far without releasing so much as a sketch?

News and Observer is useless as ever in pointing all this out of course.

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Allow me to translate.

“We don’t have any cause we never paid for them.”

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I’d like to go ask city council during a meeting if they could find this out. It’s happening downtown and the city government is likely as in the dark as we are.

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So as taxpayers we are not allowed fo see what our tax dollars are being spent on???

How does thi not violate open records laws…Oh wait!! The Repubs have their own rules…

Where is DOGE Bros when you need them?!!!

Oh wait…

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This. It’s also just weird. Normally they would be bragging about it with renderings and a ground breaking ceremony or some shit. Instead just nothing.

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If we had serious investigative reporters in this town a FOIA request might do the trick. Maybe get Indyweek on it?

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They 100% paid for them, the architect of record is LS3P and the decision makers at issue are lawyers, read: people that cannot imagine the final product solely from the specs. They just aren’t releasing them because they hold the city and the people who live here in complete disdain.

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i guess the architect hasn’t released any images either?

The Architect has likely been instructed not to by their client, the General Assembly, who I cannot emphasize enough hates you, their constituents

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Back around the time of the depression in 2008, the State was building the DENR (now the DEQ building) and parking deck was causing issues with Raleigh. Different visions I guess. I believe the state passed some legislation allowing it to bypass Raleigh planning . The exact details are fuzzy in my memory. But I suspect that the State still does it’s own thing and leaves Raleigh out of it as much as possible. Maybe someone remembers the details ?

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Random question as someone that moved in after they were built - were the Museum of Natural History, DEQ Building, and SECU tower all the same project? I always assumed so given how intertwined they are.

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I think they were all around the same time frame, but SECU was built separately from the museum and Green Square. I feel like the State buildings were slightly before the SECU building, bc I felt it was odd they were building it “behind” a brand new building. But I could be completely off on this.

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Indyweek won’t touch this because it’s not Durham lol

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Looks like the crane has been put up for the Education Campus building

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