Someone better tell Phil Berger the only place more liberal than UNC is DTR.
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The city of Asheville enters the chatā¦
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Itās because of history. UNC-Chapel Hill was actually ājust UNCā for most of its history, and its constituent members were treated as branch campuses of the same āConsolidated University of North Carolinaā. In the early history of the UNC system, the Chapel Hill campus was its functional center. Itās only after the system grew that the General Assembly took more power away from the Chapel Hill campus, to the point that it became just like every other member institution.
Itās also why UNCās leaders like Frank Porter Graham used to be called āpresidentsā. Todayās leaders of our alma mater like Guskiewicz or Folt are/were āchancellorsā while system leaders like Peter Hans have inherited the āpresidentā title.
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Yeah itās amazing how these lib run schools raise tuition every year and then bitch about the cost and ask for the debt to be forgiven. Nice slight of hand.
Not sure of your point here. You do understand public universities in North Carolina canāt arbitrarily raise tuitionā¦ā¦without the GOP controlled legislatureās approval right?
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Correct but who requests it every year? Gov could reject it but too many libs support it so canāt veto. Itās a big ole sham.
Historically, NC didnāt have titans of commerce like Carnegie, Rockefeller, etc like other states. We were relatively poor and agrarian. So people with great foresight in our state created the first public university funded with taxpayer dollars. Together we could create a university to rival those supported by men of great wealth. And what a success for our state. We can now boast one of the best public university systems in the world. As industries like tobacco and furniture and textiles were dying, NC was able to nimbly transition to tech and research due to our great universities. If not for them we would have been left in very poor economic conditions. Now we have a few titans but they are all in NC due to our public university system. So of course weāre extremely proud of what we created and support it no matter what idiots from out of state come in and say about it. Similarly, our state created one of the great art museums of our nation with taxpayer dollars, the NC Museum of Art. North Carolina has become the great state it is due to the collective contributions of all of our citizens.
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You got it Medd, everything public and private is off the backs of the working citizens. Anyway, the university system should be shrunk down to just medical operations IMO, I hire engineers every week that are self taught and or received a better full stack engineering education in a 10k boot camp and or from online sites like plural site. The hiring bonus pays for all the schooling and more. University for the most part is like the mail box, a glorified trash can. There is a lot of engineering talent in the triangle and unfortunately itās from overseas not from our schools. They donāt teach tech correctly, to woke and too distracted from hard science with BS. The marketing materials and sweet talk is wonderful but when you look under the hood itās not pretty. They can do so much better.
Show of handsā¦.Who wants to live in a high rise or drive over a bridge built by a ā10K boot campā engineer?!!
No seriously? Softfurrykitty cleary feels those of us with advanced degrees have wasted our time and we could simply have grabbed shovels & a few hammers and built the new World Trade Centerā¦ā¦no need for those edumacated architects, geologists, transit planners, chemists to formulate the concrete consistencyā¦ā¦or those pesky engineers with those 4+ years of that useless science & math stuff
They probably could have just ādone their own researchā on notable information sites like say Facebook.
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Funny story uncle Jess. My brother lives in a Wendell. He goes and picked up items left out by homeowners in Raleigh. He just cleans the items up. Then resells them on Craigslist. He dropped out of school basically pre-birth, he made 210k last year selling junk back to smart people. All cash!
I enjoy development news and architectural renders as much as the next guy, but what I REALLY come here for is to watch two people argue about nothing with some political bias thrown in! 
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Lobbying is really the only * valid * reason to make such a move. Taking politics out of it for a minute, however much research you believe is coming out of Chapel Hill, itās likely even higher. Thatās the financial driver, full stop. Housing the system and its administrative program as close to that orbit as possible is mutually beneficial.
I think softfurrykitty is referring to software āengineersā and programmers not real engineers. You canāt go to a boot camp and become a structural engineer.
Correct, but isnāt lobbying and general admin services/financial work/planning pretty much what the system leadership does?
The circuit breaker working as intended
what kind if āengineerāsā do you hire without a degree? serious question. What is your line of business?
Are you aware that schools teach things other than coding? Or that there are jobs that do not involve coding?
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No I am not, nothing else matters. Just kidding. I am just referring to that sector, although 80 percent of the other stuff is garbage anyway.
Well, the largest university in the system is in Raleigh, so thereās that. 
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You mean UNC-Raleigh? Or State College?