Village District Developments

Early morning crane view:

You can already get the sense that this project will really create a “bookend” effect, and along with the seven story (7!) hotel at the old K&W site, will entirely change the feeling of the district to one vastly more dense and urban.

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This is a great point and I completely agree. With midrise redevelopments on the east and west ends of the district, what’s left is to fill in the middle.

The questions I have are:

  1. What will be the next domino to fall for this district?
  2. Will (should?) any of the 1940s era Cameron Village be preserved?
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Do we know how tall the currently under-construction apartments will be?

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Ooh, I hope it’s the parking lots!

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I was going to ask which piece was the original 40s section, but then went down the Google Images rabbit hole instead. It’d be fun to see a little of that streamlined modern look back instead of the standard strip mall facades we’ve got now.




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Apartments I believe will be 5 or 6 stories, height I’m not sure.

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  1. I would imagine either: the long strips of parking lot that abut Clark Ave, Woodburn Rd, and Daniels St - they’d be the easiest to develop, so long as the district as a whole is able to perhaps better utilize the Library parking deck and perhaps lease some spaces from the new apartment building’s deck, and/or even the 7-story hotel whenever that goes up, they could build on each strip one at a time and hopefully not lose too much parking. Can build long 3-5 story apartments with ground floor retail (adding to the retail offerings + residential opportunities).
    -OR- The gravel parking lot on the corner/boxed in by Smallwood/Cameron St/Sutton Dr - it currently acts as overflow parking for Broughton HS, but I have to imagine someone will offer a price they can’t refuse to redevelop it, perhaps even with conditions to build Broughton a brand new parking deck or something (not a crazy thought; my old high school in Wake Forest build a 2-story parking deck the year before I graduated).
  2. Seeing the older pictures @oakcityyimby has shared REALLY reminds me of Union Market area in DC… I actually don’t mind the strips as they are now, but I wouldn’t really mind any of them being redeveloped honestly.
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Does anyone have the rendering for this one? I don’t think I’ve seen one.

Not rendering, but here’s site plan and elevations…

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It’s going to look huge when built. It a big change from what was there before.

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…and hundreds and hundreds of new residents who don’t have to drive to a grocery store or even to go out in Glenwood South.

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Plus there will hopefully be a continuous urban fabric between village and nc state which all of them can regularly walk in.

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The only things that separate the Village District from downtown are Broughton and Forest (Cameron) Park.

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True, if you’re talking access to the western edge but seems to me that the Village is about the same distance from ‘central downtown’ as Downtown South albeity more urban / neighborhood form than the current pathway to DTS. Will be interesting to see how infill plays out over the next coupla decades.

The Village District is connected by a strong pedestrian scaled experience. It’s really no comparison.

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Except the Village customer drives there historically and now, regardless of your desired reality…
Improving, yes. But the comparison was about distance from the center core.

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I know what you meant, and still maintain that it’s no comparison regarding the pedestrian experience.

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Yup no way I would walk to downtown south now or even in 20 years from current downtown. Atmosphere , not distance is everything when walking. Wish Raleigh would invest more in streetscapes downtown. Crap sidewalks, scrubby trees , trash, needs to do better.

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I know they dropped the Peace Street streetscape plan (which I think we voted for in a bond referendum years ago), but I’ve always felt that we need a streetscape from West Street to Clark Ave with wider sidewalk, bury power lines and create a nice pedestrian/bike experience along Peace. This would at least give a feeling of pedestrian connection all the way from Oakwood to Cameron Village.

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WHY was this dropped? Especially if it’s something voters VOTED to pay for?

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