William Peace and Seaboard Station

Council is going to have a meltdown with all the new proposals. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone stepsdown for their health and well being.

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It’s currently still labeled as “UR” under review.

I think it actually looks pretty decent. The residential building being mostly brick with loft-style floor-to-ceiling windows looks like what the Dillon apartment buildings were trying to achieve but fell short of.

Agreed, I would think that some are actually thinking that DTR should put the breaks on such a positive renaissance.:crazy_face:

Is it allowed for me to make a few suggestions in regards to whom should “step-down”?
:wink::joy:

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This site is zoned DX-7-UG so this seems entirely inline. With no rezoning, I’m not sure a council approval is needed.

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Can we choose which one(s)?

Yeah, you beat me to it. If it’s developed in accordance with the UDO, how could the council stop it?

To expand on my earlier point, let’s review the zoning in the area. It’s nice mix of 7-story max and 12-story. I have no issue with it going higher but if not rezoned, a mix of 7-12 buildings would be fantastic, IMO.

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Wouldn’t it still have to go through the Site Review process?

This council never fails to surprise me.

You’re right, flat elevations really don’t do architecture any justice. The Fairweather looks pretty unimpressive on paper too; it’s the materials, sleek detailing, and depth in the facade that give the design its elegance.

I’m withholding judgement till I see renderings, but on the positive side: this is 7 stories, so we’re avoiding another stick-built 5+1 building. There’s way more glass than is typical for apartments, meaning they’re putting some money into it, and there’s distinct base, shaft, and cap. It looks like a nicely proportioned, decent urban building.

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Looks like a stick built 5+2. I’m no expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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hahah actually, you’re right. Might be. I didn’t think that’s allowed by code, but it is now. Under 2012 IBC, there was a limit of one story above grade before switching to wood construction, as long as there’s a 3-hour fire rating between the two sections. The limit was removed in 2015.

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I wonder if that piece on the top section is a rooftop bar? Stef’s renters over by Oakwood might be disturbed by this.

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Do you know if it’ll cast a big shadow though?

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Do we know anything about the material specs? The windows look pretty big. If its well built (doesn’t have to be an architectural masterpiece) it’s pretty much what you’d hope for on this corner. Hotel will serve Peace and State Government nicely. Residents are sorely needed in this area so it becomes an actual neighborhood and not just a drive-in shopping center adjacent to the rest of downtown. I like it.

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Boylan HOA may chime in (issues shadows and rooftop bar and tapering from the downtown core). :crazy_face:

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Does Peace allow students to live off campus? And if so will apartments be designed such that would not appeal to them or maybe rules about number of unrelated residents in apartment?

When I lived at The Lincoln there was a girl who went to Peace living there.

I feel like the sale of Seaboard is going to fund some additional buildings on Peace campus in the future. They plan on adding 500 beds to their campus.

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