What 20 story hotel ?
Yes, that’s for Timber Creek in Garner.
Side note. My buddy that moved here from San Fran always made fun of the “allude to nature” sounding street names and neighborhoods. He would get on a roll.
Welcome to North Brook, North Hills, Millbrook, North Mills, Timber Brook, Pine Valley, North Pines, Pine Brook, Rock Tree, Oakwood, Oak Brook, Timber wood, etc. They were mostly made up, but occasionally actual names around here.
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This is directly across capital from SmoHo phase 3. It’s fronting Peace st. You can see the archdale building on the left.
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Thanks. I apparently am having trouble visualizing this. I’m going to try again lol.
Edit: ok, yes now this makes sense. I don’t know what I was thinking. I like the building. I hope this moves ahead.
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If you scroll up in the thread there are several maps/aerial shots of the area.
I’m planning on being there. Anyone else?
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Karla and I will be there, with more than 20 characters.
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I have a “late” night today so probably won’t get there until 8 which I think is too late. I don’t live in North Central so cannot vote but if plans change, I may try to make it.
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The CACs need to use their budgets to give attendees chill pills before meetings. Very interesting tonight. Ultimately 7 yes and 10 no vote for the Zimmer project. I think mostly due to affordable housing concerns. Here are my notes:
North Central CAC meeting - 9/10/19
rezone Z-17-19
- applicant will request traffic study prior to PC then TIA post design
- Conspiracy theories are brewing
- traffic study engineer firm may have ppl on PC or CC
- Can we trust the study?
- Lady in back irate that the city is lying to its citizens. Wish I had gotten video. Quite entertaining
- CSX approval to allow ped crossing to be above OR below ground
- Diff lady is standing up speaking to her neighbors. Speaking to affordable housing needs. Not sure her argument is very clear. Her heart is breaking for her neighbors.
- Lady in the back says the building is falic
- Somebody wants a walkway from Kane to Zimmer buildings, the builders should coordinate so they don’t clash
- 7 in favor, 10 against including the lady that openly said her primary residence is Seattle lol
This is why we need more attendees at these meetings! At least more sane attendees. There were a couple of ladies that spoke up during the meeting that I thought had good points and while they voted no, I appreciate their contribution. There were a couple of others that were relatively off the rail. One, VERY off the rail (Seattle lady).
That is all for now.
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It’s a little scary how easy it is to manipulate people into thinking something is malicious.
If anybody wants to retweet @DTRCAC on this topic: https://twitter.com/dtrcac/status/1171605642768990208?s=20
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Oh, the fun of it all. The irony is that the nearest residents, The Cotton Mill, aren’t in the North Central CAC.
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IMO, I have to believe that the affordable housing concerns are being used a ruse. Be a NIMBY by pretending to care about other people.
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It’s interesting the concept of affordable housing has been implanted in these people’s head associated with these buildings. I agree it’s a NIMBY disguised as Affordable Housing advocates.
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Lacking of housing is driving up cost. Funny how people don’t understand this concept at all. Either way, CAC doesn’t decide anything just makes it harder to get approval. We will see in the end what happens.
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This is why the CACs should be dissolved. They are basically used as a vehicle for NIMBYs to hold back good projects As another poster noted blocking housing supply hurts affordability in the city, so they are absolutely disingenuous by using an affordable housing argument to block additional housing
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Interesting report on the Zimmer CAC presentation. With this being a DX-40 rezoning application, isn’t the City Council going to go for an AH request. Or, is the tower going to be only non-residential (Or is it too soon to tell)?
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Putting a ton of housing where there currently is none. Yet people don’t want the project because no’affordable housing’.
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Too soon to tell.
@Kanatenah, this fact was repeated several times by the developer in the meeting (to your point). No houses are being displaced. The city isn’t receiving any real tax value from the current occupants. This becomes a signature building for the north gateway into downtown.
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I think alot of the current emphasis on affordable housing is due to the election. It’s a big concern so every project is a potential chance to add affordable housing to the list of concerns.
The points the CAC makes may not be presented in a logical fashion, but there is something to the idea that continued redevelopment without consideration for AH is going to perpetuate the problem.
My issue is that there is no policy in place to deal with it. If Council is going to consider AH when making zoning decisions they should at least adopt a policy on how it’s going to be approached. Developers are left to throw darts and see what sticks, which makes it very hard to program new projects. Kane may have set the bar with his percentage/time limit conditions. That doesn’t lock the units into AH in perpetuity but it does incentivize a mix of unit types that could potentially support ongoing AH in the project.
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