Names can always be changed. There are several building in DTR that have different names from what they where called when first built. Only if a really outstanding building with a popular name is it hard to change. How may people call the Sears Tower by it’s, now 10yo, new name? Hint starts with “W”.
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Exactly names don’t have to be so formal, I bet I will wind up calling it “Pendo tower” or something like that as it’s more informative to people who arnt obsessed with this stuff like us.
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Where is the council’s famous dictum of “Tapering”? This would seem to be exactly the place where it should be applied - with buildings tapering back from the street on one of, if not the most important vista in the city.
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As a trophy husband, I appreciate the use of the word to describe high-class space.
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This doesn’t exceed the UDO, so the council has no say.
The city’s opportunity to protect this corridor was during the development of the UDO, but it apparently didn’t happen.
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I’m actually pretty glad it didn’t happen. I think connecting the different, isolated districts of downtown with tall buildings is much better than protecting some view of (in my opinion) a completely lackluster old capitol building.
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Frankly, the connection of the districts happens at the street level, and protection of the boulevard approach wouldn’t affect that. I’m not suggesting that there aren’t any tall building along Hillsborough; I’m saying that we could have stepped back from the street a certain distance to have both the boulevard experience and new towers. It would have been as simple a having a wider sidewalk experience, and perhaps the first 20 feet of building depth of Hillsborough to be no more than 3 stories.
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I just think 301 hillsborough was ok by itself
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Well it is going to be 3 different towers so that will be 3 different addresses for those towers. That particular name would seem to only be valid for one of the towers.
@various people
Does anyone here know which building Two Hannover Square is? Of course ya’ll do, but do most people and does anybody actually call it that?
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Raleigh 911 knows where that Hanover Square is because it has to be in the street centerlines as there are actually phone lines still attached to the 2 Hanover Square address.
I call it the BB&T tower. Idk 
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Hillsbourgh St was the original ‘best address’ because if you had malaria in Raleigh you went to Hillsborough to try and ride it out and only rich people were able to go to higher ground to try and get well. At this point I just want/wanted the remaining old houses left, moved over to Blount St (became a competing best address after the civil war) and let Hillsborough become an active retail strip.
RE the Capitol Building, it is or course Raleigh’s second (first was brick and burned down while having a fire proof roof installed ironically). All the stone for it came from the Quarry off (also now under) Rock Quarry Rd about where the National Cemetery is and is one of just a very few Greek Revival Capitols. They were dark and dingy, no doubt, and other States built new ones perhaps for that reason (Kentucky, Iowa and Illinois all stopped using their Greek Revival Capitol Buildings). The most important view in my opinion is standing in the middle of Fayetteville and seeing Memorial in one direction and the Capitol in the other. The Hillsborough St view seems sad and irrelevant without all the mansions flanking it.
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The Hillsborough Street view of the Capitol building is blocked primarily by one tree that has overgrown and leans over in front of the building. If that one tree was removed then you could see the columns of the building from Hillsborough and that would make the building look a little grander. I look at it daily from the Hillsborough side and complain about that tree to my friends all the time. Of course they’ll never remove it but it would help a lot and there are a lot of big trees on the grounds that do not block the view. You can see the building better in the winter with the leaves off the tree.
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There’s is also a very large statue placed, very intentionally, right in that frame too.
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Exactly @John. Can they go back and reopen the UDO?
@GucciLittlePig you might consider it lackluster, but it is still considered significant for its unaltered Greek Revival design. And, its the only one we’ve got.
Agreed @Mark, I for one am ready to move it and reopen the view, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Any number of states added on to their capitols, but NC was to poor to do anything. Thus we have one of the few unaltered capitols around.
This isn’t that complicated, just don’t bury one of our few vistas and our best public building in a canyon of high rises. There is room for both.
New article on TBJ. Fallon company will start phase 2 in 2020 
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Says they are building two additional towers in Phase two, we could see 2 maybe 3 cranes at this site at once.
https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2019/08/28/fallon-company-eyes-2020-start-date-for-second.html?iana=hpmvp_trig_news_headline
““I think we’ll get started on the next phases very soon after the groundbreaking,” Fallon says.”
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Sounds like they are going to be aggressive in expanding in area. Maybe taking a page from Kane’s play book?
Some highlights
Start on the first tower in September
start on the next phases soon after starting phase 1
looking to make more Triangle investments
mention they often self-fund projects so can be more flexible.
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Yes, that is a highlight - regarding larger proportions of equity funding: "That also allows us to take different types of risk that have, maybe, longer time horizons.” Hopefully this project is more recession proof than it seems.
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