Downtown hotels

….it’s as hideous as I remember

Does this picture say, “DTRaleigh has arrived”?
Or does it say:
:nauseated_face: :face_vomiting: :face_vomiting: :sob:

@Marco Don’t hate the messenger fellas :laughing:

I was just digging through the old posts.

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Better than nothing, but not ideal.

Wouldn’t be Raleigh if it didn’t have an obnoxious parking deck staring at you straight in the face.

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Would be the case, but after the first 189 times, I have had it with “better than nothing”. :disappointed_relieved:

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Are we sure that this isn’t an expansion of the jail downtown? :wink:

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Yall, this is the side that faces the alley / other parking deck.

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Both equally as ugly… :crazy_face:

I honestly don’t think this looks bad. It’s not anything amazing but I’m fine with it. We need hotels, and it looks like a regular hotel.

#showmygoodside

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Oh, is that a hotel, sorry, it looks like a cross between the prison and new court house in DTR :wink: :joy:

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The justice center? I actually really like that building! Lol

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enterprise is crafty

why was my first reaction to the pictures, “oh a Wake County Jail annex” ???

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The Baptist Headquarters building next to McDonalds is boarded up. Not sure if it has been or if this is recent .

501 N West
9-story Moxy Hotel

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I’d love to have a Moxy in DTR!
But this potentially jeopardizes High Speed Rail/Artery, no?

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I guess? I’ve never understood why the existing 100 ft railroad right-of-way wasn’t enough for the high-speed rail line.

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  1. First and foremost, because Norfolk Southern owns it, and the state has absolutely no leverage over them. Only an act of congress could conceivably compel them to sell, or grant access to, any portion of their right of way. During the planning for SEHSR they steadfastly refused to play ball. I’m not sure what might cause them to reconsider.

  2. Because that’s where the route goes in the approved environmental impact study. A change in alignment would reopen an acrimonious process that nearly failed to to find a route in the first place.

  3. The NS right of way is 100’ wide here but not to the south. It’s only about 50’ wide between Five Star and 222 Glenwood’s parking garage for example. So even if Norfolk Southern did agree to allow SEHSR to build in their right-of-way, some new property would be required anyway.

  4. Putting physical constraints like new buildings on the edge of the right of way imposes geometric constraints that may, or may not, make finding a route more difficult or impossible

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So does me dying of old age… I’ll take a cool hotel. Let the train people figure out their own business. I don’t want an empty lot here for the rest of my life.

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