I really need to give this a rest, but… it’s not quite the same.
There are hundreds of spots all over downtown where a hotel (or some other building) could go. One lot being taken up by a short and ugly hotel is annoying, but kind of a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things.
There is only one feasible and approved route for high speed rail. It would be more like if the city had rebuilt the old convention center in place rather than unblocking and reopening Fayetteville Street.
Aren’t there already other buildings also in the path of the approved HSR corridor in this neighborhood that would need to be removed? If so, then those get removed along with the Moxy Hotel in the future. At the rate that this rail project is moving, it will be decades before it happens and the hotel will have been fully depreciated by then and ready to be vacated or renovated.
But by then it’ll be a historic treasure no one wants to tear down, like every other old piece of shit in this city…
just curious…with so many hotels moving into downtown - i guess this means raliegh is more of a destination spot than i figured? pnc is outside of DT, the large biomed operations are in the park. why the vast increase in hotel space as opposed to residential, the supporting industry generally next to residential and office? i just am unaware of the ratio i guess.
I don’t know what is driving the occupancy these days, but I suspect that there are a lot of different aspects to it.
As Raleigh grows and downtown itself becomes more of a destination, I can imagine people choosing to stay downtown, even if their event or reason for traveling isn’t necessarily downtown. It’s sort of like how folks used to stay near malls when traveling because the mall itself was a destination.
ASR on the Moxy went up. Just a footprint with some interior plans
That’s good news! I want a bunch of exterior renderings but I’ll take it.
story checks out. not super informative
Edit: Aside from their listing of 2 parking spots for the entire building…love that, even though parking is already tough in that area
Looks like they’re leaving a lot of space out back… maybe this doesn’t screw up SEHSR plans after all?
What you are seeing is the Norfolk Southern right-of-way, which is 100ft wide behind the Moxy lot - in theory, wide enough to accommodate two freight tracks and two passenger tracks, which is what I believe should be the requirement. This is only in theory, of course; all of this is contingent on getting Norfolk Southern to “play nice” - when you have no leverage and their stance on passenger rail is to basically be as antagonistic as possible. Not a death blow to HSR, but a big setback because now you have to get NS’s cooperation.
It’s narrower elsewhere, however, so property will have to be acquired no matter what.
Seems like Norfolk Southern is going to want to do some serious reputation rebuilding, maybe. Maybe they will be more flexible going forward.
You should see the palace of an HQ that they built for themselves in Atlanta. In my book, they got some explaining to do.
You guys were having heart attacks for no reason, I knew they wouldn’t take up the majority of the lot as some suggested.
I cite this post in an effort to opt out of the “you guys” you’re trying to lump me into:
It was a general statement, not necessarily aimed at you.
That artist is doing the absolute most with all the reflections and angle to make this not look like the bland copy-paste hotel design that it is (still better than a surface lot, obviously). Cool art piece on the corner, though - I hope the real one is similarly bright.
Considering that parking pedestal is going to rise up to the level of (if not a little higher than) the existing train tracks - I can forgive this one. Ain’t NOBODY gonna choose to rent a room that literally sits at track-level HAHAHA
I don’t think that’s the one for Raleigh. Looks like the design for the Charlotte one. ASR only shows 2 parking spaces provided with ours.
