Highline Glenwood and 404 Glenwood at The Creamery

It looks like the parking is a separate structure? So it could be converted or torn down in the future.

It’s the base of the 20 story office tower.

Here is another 3D rendering :

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Can’t wait for them to break ground on this :raised_hands:. Glenwood is going to feel a lot different once this goes up and the new cornerstone development.

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That parking deck screening looks like a temporary scaffold or something.

Will it have flat, or sloped, floors? The former is conducive to eventual conversion to other uses. The latter is not.

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The parking floor plan is actually confusing… one-way traffic? How do you go up or down?

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They’re not screens, it’s candy glass you accelerate and fly out of the parking deck like a man.

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From the plans:

Perforated metal mesh
Precast Concrete
Metal tie rods

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That shows ramped floors (indicated by the dashed triangles). Maybe it’s a double helix plan.

The screening shown here is definitely a placeholder… it’s literally rendered as a solid color with no suggestion of materiality. Still, it’s proportionally awful. I’d hate it less if they chopped off two of the modules, which would bring it more inline with the tower of the Creamery building. It just completely dwarfs it as shown.

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Parking facade, clever!

Woonerf is a pedestrian alley, very European. The designer I would bet is European.

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Parking deck seems like the Dillon’s, genius yet confusing :slight_smile:

Did I miss how many stories this will be?

I can tell you this the city Council is looking seriously at improving the appearance standards of parking decks with art or better screenings, more to come.

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As a downtown lover I’m absolutely pumped about this project. This connecting with Glenwood & Smoky Hollow is freaking huge.

Bittersweet for me tho as I’ll lose my beautiful Glenwood view from my apartment if I stick around.

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Need to start thinking how to market your dense urban view! :slight_smile:

I’m surprised no one posted this one yet. It shows this new property in context with all of Glenwood South. At the bottom it looks like it points out the next phase of Smoky Hollow and the potential Zimmer development too.

EDIT: Obvious this picture isn’t fully up-to-date with all the new developments. Aka doesn’t show stuff like the Madison, 400H, Bloc 83 Phase 3, etc.

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I don’t think it’s that bad. If it were a concrete wall I’d agree but it appears to be some sort of glass.

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I think Drew said it’s perforated metal mesh. And would the metal bars that form the outline of pine trees have greenery growing on them? I am too lazy to look through the plans, but I don’t think the parking garage is or even can be some kind of closed off concrete block.

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I’ve never seen a rendering this detailed released with a ā€œplaceholderā€ parking deck screening.

They are showing us just how they intend to build this parking deck. We should pay attention and take them at their word (rather than hopefully assuming that… they couldn’t possibly be planning to build something this bad)

What incentive would they have to release a rendering that looks worse than what they plan to build? It just doesn’t make sense.

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Yeah I guess it could be mesh. In any case not concrete.

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I’ve never seen a rendering this detailed released with a ā€œplaceholderā€ parking deck screening.

I have. I even produce them, routinely! It’s pretty standard practice.

The rendering is not even that detailed… It’s a watercolor image. Architects do this intentionally to show that these are just an early suggestion of the character of the design, and are likely to change.

They’re literally showing blank 20’ x 30’ portions of the faƧade as a single panel. That is not even buildable. It is screaming that it hasn’t been designed, and is likely a placeholder for a panelized material that could potentially add detail, a pattern, or other forms of articulation. (Or they could choose to use metal perf. in a way that doesn’t emphasize panel joints, but the point is that the lack of detail in the rendering shows that this area hasn’t been thought through yet). I could be totally wrong about this, but I’m just speaking from gut reaction and experience.

What incentive would they have to release a rendering that looks worse than what they plan to build? It just doesn’t make sense.

It’s a reality of the development/approval process – there simply isn’t time. The design process for a project like this is months long, and renderings like this are often produced in a couple of weeks, at a stage of design where the articulation of many areas has not yet been studied. Lower priority things don’t always get addressed. I posted an example of this yesterday on one of my own projects… the renderings we used for city council approval/public meetings were a best guess at an early stage of the character of the design, but really only reflected our proposed massing and a couple of the materials. After we studied the facade, the design improved, drastically, over time.

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