Maybe some new renders and info about the project:
Appearance Commission Feb 3rd meeting presentation:
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This is interesting, have we seen this before? Looks like the pedestrian plaza will have a restricted-access vehicle path for loading/unloading, with retractable bollards and everything.
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How many more stages of approvals are left before they can break ground? Excited for this one
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Not sure, can someone who understands the approval process chime in?
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While pretty cool, automatic retractable bollards have been known to have a number of repairs. I work with them a lot up here in NYC, and a few spots are in constant need of repair, and are expensive to replace. But I like that Raleigh is stepping up it’s street design game.
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I am assuming since they went to the appearance commission, they have to complete their design development and construction design then go in for permitting.
I will say end of 2022 to early 2023 before we can see construction.
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There were some things that did not comply with the UDO, so they had to submit an Administrative Alternate for Design and demonstrate that although the design did not follow the UDO to the letter, it satisfied the intent. No expert on this subject, just the way I sized it up.
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I have to imagine when they’re sweating the small details like this, construction is a matter of when, not if.
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That traffic calming streetscape is so calming that I can barely muster up the energy to type this reply. 
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suggests construction target Labor Day
THIS YEAR
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Not surprised. I’ve been seeing some miscellaneous surveyors and what not amongst the property the last few weeks or so.
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Also the Dak Tile parcel is temporary available for lease until “July”. Which is another sign it’s coming down after.
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There’s an associated hotel project around the corner at 501 N. West St. that presumably had hotel plans (20-story) pre-covid but fell apart. Seems there’s potential suitor for that block again.
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This is hilarious to me: “Lease this tiny ass storefront for only the next 4 months but still pay nearly $2k a month” uhhhh no f**king thank you, just the entire set up/tear down of any type of business in the span of 4 months wouldn’t be worth it at that price LMAO
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You mean 501 north west, or 501 south west?
501 South West would put it catty corner from Kane’s “the platform” in which case, build baby build!
For the love of all that is holy, though, 501 north west must not be developed. High speed rail, commuter rail to Wake Forest, and The Artery concept are all dead letter if that ever happens.
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Fixing my post. Yes, along the tracks on North West St is this plot.
That’d be big. Do we know if there is retail on the Tucker St. Side of the Creamery project? Tucker St. Could be a perfect lil retail corridor with this potential hotel project. Would transition Smoky Hollow into Glenwood really nicely.
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20 story zoning was never approved there (it’s currently DX-12) but the idea of a major development happening there, or anywhere along the west side of West Street, comes pretty close to keeping me awake at night.
Adaptive reuses and moderate-scale renovation of existing buildings, revisions to landscape/hardscape/etc- I suppose I’m okay with that. But please don’t put a $100 million tower in the way. HSR, commuter rail, and The Artery will be expensive enough as-is, even without having to acquire and demolish a tall building.
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Seems like so much has been done for SEHSR already. Would the city approve a building in its path at this stage?
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First, I don’t believe there is anything the city can do to prevent a development from happening under the current 12 story zoning, short of buying the property, or an easement at least. If a development is proposed, I certainly hope they do this. They could, and absolutely should, use eminent domain if necessary.
They could absolutely refuse to approve any rezoning, though.
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