Exactly. According to everyone in Austin or SF or Brooklyn, they all peaked the year that person moved there and have declined since.
My first thought before I even read this was âyeah that probably fits the period that the average user was in college or their peak 20s nicelyâ
Then one day they realized that it was THEM that peaked, not the city.
Late to this discussion but funny how my view used to be looking directly down at MS station and now itâs looking directly across at the NH Target. Will say there are fewer flashing blue lights over in these parts!
Rant/Vent:
Moore Square doesnât just have problems anymore. Itâs a continuous unhealed wound in the middle of our, growing, city where decision makers/leaders want to remedy the situation with painted sidewalks and string lights while not properly addressing the root cause of the issue for fear of being politically incorrect and hurting feelings. All this while business owners are looking for their next move out of Moore Square and residents find other areas of the city to frequent and spend money. Itâs a shame that the core of downtown Raleigh suffers from the current situation itâs in due to lack of action, and it will only get worse. Of all the places in Raleigh to go and new areas coming online (Seaboard, West End, Dorothea Dix, Future Downtown South) why in the world would I take my family to Moore Square?! I guess Raleigh will study it for a few more years and create another task force hoping it magically resolves itself, since this has worked well in the past
Rant over.
They also have hired private security, which Iâve seen walking the sidewalks in broad daylight along with many other happy people.
It will resolve with time
Lol way to piss your pants
Someone put a brick through the front window at the Pourhouse. Didnât have my phone with me on my walk this morning.
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5 years ago + $13 million working with âexpertsâ to create a welcoming space in, what was, one of the top 5 most toured destinations in RaleighâŚ
â The city and Sasaki worked overtime to uncover all points of view before they began designing. They held sessions with every major constituency affected by the square, including schools, churches, regular users, restaurateurs, business owners, officials at Marbles Museum, the African American community in nearby South Park, and those concerned with the plight of the homeless. â
No offense, but I hate this approach. If your solution to crime is waiting for a national resolution, you are going to be waiting for a long long long time.
Weâre not trying to sweep the problem away. We are trying to help them. Part of understanding the problem is also realizing that many of these people donât want help. They want to continue doing drugs and being able to do any and everything else they want.
We are doing that.
I donât know of any ongoing suspicions. If youâve got evidence, Iâd love to hear it. But, the solution here is pretty simple. We need to make sure we have competitive offers so we can compete with other local cities in acquiring and attaining our police force.
I understand the problem is much bigger than our litte city. However, if the root of a great problem isnt being solved in America, then someone must be making a profit. Right? History has consistently shown this to be the case in this country. Raleigh is no different. We may need to do a grand audit and rules may need to be changed within our city government. Oh yeah and this country is financing several major proxy wars right nowâŚ
It would help for people to leave their comfort bubble and become hands-on. Homelessness is just a reality in our 2024 society. Ive easily joined several volunteer groups that help the disenfranchised. Nothing makes you feel better than helping people hands on.
Rug sweeping is nice, but temporary⌠Downtown is basically located in south Raleigh, the poorest part of town.

We are trying to help them. Part of understanding the problem is also realizing that many of these people donât want help. They want to continue doing drugs and being able to do any and everything else they want.
Seems like a rather broad generalization.
I said many of these people donât want help. Not all. It was intentionally a generalization. And itâs not wrong.

I understand the problem is much bigger than our litte city. However, if the root of a great problem isnt being solved in America, then someone must be making a profit. Right?
Sure, but itâs not always who you think it is. Attempting to halt all activity to solve this in the best way that we can because we need to focus on the bigger picture can be a losing strategy. Itâs entirely possible, if not extremely likely, that it never gets resolved.
And, if it doesnât get resolved, then we could set ourselves back years, if not decades, in our attempts.
Are our homeless shelters filled to capacity? I remember seeing an article late last year that there were 2 new shelters set to open this year.
Was in Atlanta last week for businessâŚour homeless problem is never as bad as what I see in other âbigâ cities. Man, itâs really bad there.
Thatâs why I donât understand when ppl get on here and complain about the homeless issue we have in Moore Sq/DTR. I get it, itâs not favorable. But itâs NOTHING compared to what you see in other major cities. Homelessness is a reality you see everywhere, even small cities nowadays. Tbh we should be thankful itâs not an even bigger issue than what it is, considering Wake Countyâs population.
The meltdowns over relatively minor criminal activity and homelessness for a city of Raleighâs size are pretty silly, but they seem to be having a real impact on businesses around Moore Square, which isnât silly at all.
The issue is density, and I mean density of pedestrians. When youâre walking down a street and thereâs few other walkers around except the vocal crazies, it feels much more personal. However, if a bum says crazy stuff to someone in a crowded area itâs easy to brush it off and feel safe despite the incident.
Tl;Dr
We need more housing