Sounds like the Hillsborough St of the 70s… 
This project would be better off as a Carvana tower so maybe some of the people could just get themselves a reliable car, and we’d get a little height in this space.
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This should have been the intercity bus station, not the regional bus station.
But it is what it is. It does somewhat solve a platform shortage problem at Moore Square, but as noted, will cause other problems, especially related to connecting between GoRaleigh and GoTriangle.
I’ve discussed it before, but moving the GoRaleigh transfer station to the City Hall block would cut the walk between the two facilities by two thirds. Would also provide another opportunity to make up for past mistakes and get the intercity buses back downtown again. Could also increase the perception of safety by moving RPD HQ back downtown, perhaps directly upstairs from the bus station.
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Agreed or at least GoRaleigh instead of GoTriangle. GoTriangle’s routes are mostly useless to people arriving at Union Station. Do we know if they’re going to consider the street level stops a bay? As I could kind of expect a lot of routes to serve the on-street stops, before going to Moore Square and maybe we could work out some that do the opposite.
I keep hearing about the platform shortage and I think there’s truth in it but every time I’m at Moore Square it feels like the eastern bays are under utilized. So they’re like moving the buses around in order to make room on the western ones (Platform D especially) but the eastern ones are empty or have a single bus at them (C and E). Then again I mostly ride on Sunday, so idk if that’s typical for a week day.
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Yes, that’s a good idea. If it is to be a local/regional station, buses from the east (like the 15, ZWX, etc) should pass by Moore Square on the street and then lay over at RUSBUS, while routes from the west (9, 100, 300, etc) pass RUSBUS on the street and lay over at Moore Square.
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Yes, but that’s not true because…
…at least on the GoTriangle side, this sort of cross-terminal connection will happen this August.
This is the proposed route change for the 300 and 305 buses, pulled from their slides for today’s Board of Trustees meeting:
…and here’s the same, but for the CRX and DRX. (Note that buses take the “shorter” way out of downtown Raleigh when they leave RUSbus in the morning, as shown. However, the opposite is true for evening rush hour buses.)
Plus, the GoTriangle 100 was already rerouted about 3 months ago to do the same (the black T’s are timed layovers) - except the 100, uniquely, still starts and ends at Moore Square.
So… um… from a practical perspective (i.e. aside for the symbolism of the GoRaleigh sign at RUSbus being taken down), I’m confused as to why everyone’s pissed off.
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For me at least I think it’s that the 300/305 feels like a deviation. Like it’s going to make it easier for us to track down these routes, since right now it’s kinda tricky for me to figure out where the 300/305 is laying over but it’s going east to go west again, which is never ideal. The CRX and DRX have no bearing on me, I’ve only ridden them once and that was out of intentionality, not turn up and go. (I would kill them if I had the choice and invest that money in more frequent hundreds routes 
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It’s also that the routes we want through running and serving RUSBUS, are GoRaleigh routes, not GoTriangle routes mostly.
The west street extension, assuming it ever actually happens, will vastly improve circulation near Union Station, especially access to it from Western Blvd - but for now there isn’t really a great way for the 300 to get there without backtracking. In that light, the route as planned makes sense to me.
I do wonder why the southbound part uses Salisbury and not Blount, which seems like it would afford a better connection at Moore Square. Making the route a few blocks shorter could explain it, especially if timekeeping is tight.
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For me, the West St connector is exactly the sort of thing that the city government should pursue and prioritize because its impact would be immense! Do the big public things in alignment with a vision and a plan and let the good times roll!
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The complaints about connections between RUSBus and Moore Square are beyond silly. GoRaleigh Route 9 is a frequent service route on a 15-minute headway every day. We don’t need a dozen different routes going between the two stations. One frequent route is more than sufficient and easier for customers to understand.
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This is people who have already probably spent 20/30 minutes on a bus. If they need to transfer between the two transit centers add 7.5 minutes (Average wait time), 5 minutes in motion, and then whatever the waiting time is at the other transit center. So adding around 12.5 minutes to every journey that involves both of them if taking transit and 13-15 minute for people walking between them.
Is it the worst? No, but I would still like to see them connected very frequently, or really for more GoRaleigh routes to terminate at RUSBus. Potentially even turning Hargett or Martin into a transit mall for them to interline.
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We got an update, more of an overview and history, about the RUS Bus Facility at yesterday’s RTA meeting. I’ve got it here below. Nothing major to report and we didn’t get much about the “overbuild” (ie tower) project to go over it.
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It’s going to end up being 5 floors over bus station
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I’m already preparing myself for it lmao. Biggest bait-n-switch in Raleigh development history.
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A five floor parking deck. Basically GoRaleigh Station v2.
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You’re saying it’s going to end up being 5 over BS?
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We could possibly use an audit of the city government. How are million spent on studies?
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Good topic for a study.
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I’m taking the train to Charlotte this morning and the line for Union Station Deli is about 15 people deep to order and growing. I’m happy to see they are doing so well! Btw, their Chocolate Chip toffee cookie is delish!
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