Raleigh Union Station and RUSbus Facility / Union West

Can someone enlighten this dummy that can’t keep all the levels of approvals straight - is this one fully approved or do they still have wrap up some layers of permitting?

I know with the federal money they’ve got that big motivation to get a move on quickly.

What’s up w/ the pickleball obsession in Wake County nowadays? I didn’t know it made it’s way to DTR…

Honestly I’m just annoyed because 90% of the new PUD developments in East Wake County nowadays have pickleball courts, and I’m assuming it’s like this everywhere else around here as well. Where all these “pickleball players” are coming from…I couldn’t tell you. It’s not even a real sport.

I guess I just miss the good ole days of a simple basketball or tennis court (ya know, things MOST people will actually be excited to get outside and use) in new developments.

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Dude I was literally just typing the exact same thing. What is this weird obsession with pickle ball? The players barely move from where they are standing.

It’s like the senior citizen shuffle board version of tennis.

Whatever I guess if it actually gets people outside and off tik tok or Netflix

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As a tennis player, I regret to inform you that pickleball is growing way faster among yuppies than tennis. Anecdotally, far more of my friends play it regularly.

I know the Swing guys think it’s the key way to get people to sign up for membership and eventually get them into racket sports like tennis that are considered more intimidating to newcomers.

Smaller court size and less worry about balls flying out of play also make it ideal for developments like this. And you can play it while drinking/hungover :sweat_smile:

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That shit ain’t getting me outside, or anyone else I know. Seeing the word “pickleball” actually kind of pisses me off atp. Wish I was joking.

Has to be a conspiracy to take over North Carolina with yuppies and senior citizens at every turn. No other explanation.

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I’ll have to look at a video of it on YouTube or something to see if I can warm up to it. Cause tbh my perception of it may be somewhat skewed because I’m simply pissed that it’s been shoved down our throats in recent years AND you can’t find a decent basketball or tennis court in most developments anymore.

I also kinda think that most developers know that black people will never care about pickleball, so it’s kinda a way to gatekeep/keep us from wanting to live/play in their developments, but that’s another conversation for another time and place…

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Not sure how it happened either but it is definitely the trendy thing. Out here in Apex every new development has some sort of space for pickle ball courts in their amenities area too.

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Do you see people actually use them often? Luckily my development has a basketball court (and it’s used regularly, almost too much sometimes). My fear is that there’s so few public basketball courts in Wake county developments now, that people from surrounding neighborhoods have to come out of their way and use courts in neighborhoods they don’t even live in (which isn’t a bad thing, just means people like me who actually live in that neighborhood won’t get to use it as often as we’d like to).

(Leo, feel free to move this conversation if you need to)

To flip the inclusion argument - tennis is seen as a sport you have to be reasonably athletic to play. My brother is young, loves sports, and in great shape and still won’t play it because it’s really rough on his knees.

Especially given the general decline in the fitness of the average American, everyone feels like they can play pickleball. It also can include older people as well, hence its initial pickup in senior communities.

It doesn’t replace tennis as a workout or a competitive experience, but it is inclusive in that sense.

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I will say yeah over here they definitely get used a lot. Every time I dry by there’s groups of people playing and waiting to use them. I’d say it runs the whole age bracket too from little kids to some senior citizens out there.

Funny you bring up basketball. I wfh and everyday I’m walking the dogs at lunch this same group of dads meet up and play pickle ball at lunch. There’s about as much trash talking and cursing you’d hear from a pickup basketball game going on during their game.

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Good point, tennis is hell on the knees :joy:

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Good to know they’re atleast getting used. Doesn’t bode well for my dreams of seeing additional basketball courts built around here, though.

Pickleball is the deal… like ping pong. Don’t be a hater.

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It ain’t just wake county. It’s nationwide. My brother, who has always been into the more adrenaline sports like Mt Biking, skiing, rock climbing, etc., can’t stop talking about pickle ball. He is over 50 now and the demographic is definitely more towards the AARP crowd.

Having said that, last fall I was out in Colorado for a visit and he talked me into playing. It was actually quite fun. I really enjoyed it. Like tennis but without the constant running. At 48 I think I was the youngest person there at the Rec center. But who knows, maybe once I get into my 50’s this might be right up my alley.

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The tennis courts at North Hills Park were converted to pickleball and they’re constantly full with people waiting.

Aye I love ping pong, don’t try to sway me!

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I’d expect that in North Hills, haha.

Ahaha I had the same thought

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I have no idea what pickle ball is. I’ve heard of a pickle back drink and it’s gross. I don’t really like pickles.
:cucumber:

Maybe you’re not old enough yet? It’s the biggest game in The Villages, Florida.

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