I’m happy for them. I care a little less now that my work moved to Durham, and I have no reason to be in this area. But everyone deserves a little downtown.
“Here’s the cost” - it’s so important to make everything sound like a burden, even if it’s a nice thing that will make people’s lives better
Honestly I’m happy for them too. No reason why Cary should have all the sand the sand box.
Yeah lots of grumpy cats around the media. It’s kinda obvious that all nice things gonna cost
Morrisville has no trees. Very strange place.
Yeah well, there’s that. But A for effort. Let’s see where they end up.
Morrisville is a strange place. I think it was no more then a rail stop back in the day. Since then it’s evolved into sprawling light industrial near the airport, and sprawling then suburbia, Cary 2.0 for the rest of it.
No downtown whatsoever to speak of. I am glad they are making an effort.
That’s what happens when modern planning ordinances require finished grading to be gradual, trees to be equally spaced, roads to be widened with clear sightlines, stormwater devices to be mini water treatment facilities, parking to be plentiful,…
And vibes to be low
We’ll see, but my guess is that Chatham Park will feel more similar to Morrisville than Durham when done…
Morrisville is not particularly sprawling. It has around the same population as Garner but with less than half the area. I believe it also has a higher density than Raleigh and is among the highest in the state. It is the only city in Wake County that basically has no ability to grow outward. In the near future it will be the smallest city area wise in Wake County. Unlike everywhere else in the county it will only be able to grow with infill.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think all this bashing of Downtown Cary Park is crazy. That park is great! And it is always packed, so lots of people must agree. Music and bar for adults, two dog parks for pet lovers, and great playground for the kids. Its location next to the library is nice as well.
Academy Street has lots of stuff and is a vibrant, active street. IMO, for density and variety of activities, it is one of the best places in the entire Triangle.
Now do density of flex/warehouse, Garner vs Morrisville
Have you been to Morrisville recently? Not doubting your numbers, but not sure how they currently have good density. Housing is pretty much SFH, and about half the area is light industrial, with zero residential.
Speaking anecdotally, the housing is generally on pretty small lots with lots of open space, and a decent amount of Multi-family. There is a lot of open space/land within Morrisville, but what has been built is reasonably dense (by the standards of the Triangle or NC in general, at least)
I’m in Morrisville at least weekly. I only live several miles away. Attached are the stats i was referring to. This is 2020 data so probably has changed some.
Raleigh is somewhat skewed I think by all that land in the far northern area, but this is still surprising.
Its because Morrisville is tiny and has very little undeveloped land. Go on Google maps and look at its boundaries. Not sure how it evolved like that. At the end of the day - its low density sprawl. Not fair to compare numbers to Raleigh.
Also Umstead lowers the density numbers for Raleigh.
Also density is not nearly as important as walk score
Unless you like driving instead of walking.
Also Raleigh has Umstead Park in its city limits.
The reality is that the country has a lot of cities, including burbs, that have pretty high density because the housing is really packed in tightly. Being that most of the town is new, most of the housing is on tiny lots or is multifamily.