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Update from State of Downtown Durham event April 21st:
http://forum.buildingbullcity.com/State-of-Downtown-Durham-Event-April-21st-td691.html

Lot of exciting stuff happening in our sister town

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No it wasn’t ever in style. That’s why they describe it as one of a kind…

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27 story residential in Durham? We can’t even get a single 20+ story residential up in DTR. Lol

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Because we continue to NOT brand the city for its urban potential.

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Really cool tower concept in Atlanta with majority of units reserved for educators.

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Staying in Durham for the night. They have these really cool trolleys!

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No love for Skyhouse?

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In the past 5 years…

I guess this was lost on ya’ll.

They’re RALEIGH Trolleys in “another city”.

:man_facepalming:t3:

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Lmaooo I totally missed that. What are they doing

Apparently, you can rent out those trolleys for private tours. (Including in the wrong part of the Triangle, I guess?)

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Making a separate post since it’s unrelated to the weird trolley situation above. If you ever think Raleigh and the Triangle’s transit situation is bad and we seem to always plan things to death, just remember we’re not the only ones; it’s more of a nationwide problem all across America.

Case in point: New York State wants to build a rail (well… AirTrain) connection to LaGuardia Airport, the only one that doesn’t have such a service. But New York City and a whole host of interests bring up valid points about its uselessness (you need at least one transfer to get to its soon-to-be-made-beautiful Penn Station) or environmental/traffic damage. This has gotten to the point that the usually-pro-transit advocacy platform Streetsblog wrote this:

So if you don’t like something about our region or state, remember: at least we don’t have Andrew Cuomo creeping around.

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Another pic from Durham.
@RaleighFireDept, pls ask @DurhamFireDept how they allowed this egregious street impediment.
(W. Parish St)

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What was the concern with the transfer? If it’s the transfer from the Airtrain to the LIRR, then the same thing happens at JFK. In either case, I can definitely see their concerns. I’ve used the bus at both JFK and LGA and had no problems. The cost of using the Airtrain at JFK is a pretty hefty price ($7.75/person).

On a separate note, the transfers with both of these airports is why I don’t see the need for the 100 bus going through the airport. I will admit that bypassing the airport won’t benefit riders transferring at RTC since all busses get there at about the same time. It would only benefit those getting off/on at RTC.

We leave our older Subaru at RTC and take the 100 back and forth to Terminal 2. $2.25 each way and free, though unmonitored parking. And prior to COVID, if your plane was late on a Sunday, we Ubered back to RTC. Would prefer to take the 100 all the way, but expensive DTR daily parking is prohibitive. Would have to take the 6 and change DTR to the 100 to avoid DTR parking. Easier and cheaper to park at TTC.

AirTrain JFK is somewhat useful because it connects to a meaningful transit hub with oodles of commuter rail and subway service (Jamaica) rather than kind of a nothingburger (Willets Point) on an overcrowded subway (the 7) and a commuter rail branch with kind of infrequent service.

In this case the LaGuardia AirTrain is especially galling because there is a very feasible subway extension (the N) that would be better in every way imaginable.

Now: if they were to take the JFK AirTrain, and extend it past Jamaica, to LaGuardia, with infill stations along the way (including one at Willets as well as some along its current route above the Van Wyck Expressway)- THEN we can talk. That would be a solid and beneficial transit project. Even so that should in no way have priority over just extending the N…

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The AirTrain is the sole reason why I choose JFK when flying to NYC. Even if the cost of the flight is a bit higher (it usually isn’t), the savings of using transit to get to Manhattan always covers any difference of LGA+Uber or LGA+Taxi. There’s also the added benefit of not having to worry about traffic with a bus.

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The (for Raleigh residents, probably) odd feeling when Chapel Hill somehow ends up getting cool cycling and walkable downtown amenities Raleigh is struggling with…

That is a concept sketch for one of several upgrades the Town of Chapel Hill’s thinking of building for the bus stop next to the Italian restaurant 411 West.

Franklin St. is the main street running through downtown Chapel Hill, and used to be a 4/5-lane road with curbside parking (read: a pain to drive, cycle, or bus through). So it decided to work with NCDOT to use fewer car lanes and add bike lanes -but the pandemic gave the town an excuse to have a temporary head start:

Example image of Chapel Hill's temporary bike lane

Just a reminder that your stereotypically-NIMBY town can have nice things, too, sometimes :wink: Several restaurants in Chapel Hill have been taking advantage of the above experiment to expand outdoor seating onto what used to be the sidewalk. I’m kinda surprised I haven’t seen anything like this in Raleigh…

You can see this and more in the meeting packet for the town’s Public Transit Committee meeting this past Tuesday.

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We’ve started implementing “protected” bike lanes and restaurants have been using sidewalks and even parking spots for seating. The DRA’s survey I posted yesterday was even asking if that (outdoor seating) should be retained post COVID.

I feel like I’m missing something. What is Chapel Hill doing that Raleigh isn’t? Are these larger/better protected lanes?

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I love the picture you posted (bike lanes behind parking) but I’m less keen on the bus stop. The bike lane is in the right place near the bus stop island, but the “50’ bike lane shift” puts it in front of the parking, unprotected, elsewhere which is… still not quite getting it right.

In addition, Franklin Street has always been easier to work with than most streets in Raleigh because it is about 100’ wide. There’s, essentially, plenty of room for all modes there. Raleigh’s downtown streets (bar Fayetteville, and Hillsborough between the railroad bridge and the capitol) are narrower - 66ft. Hillsborough by NCSU is closer to 75 ft. Have to make some compromises there.

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